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Re: Update: Am I fit to teach?
Posted by Lisa on 5/12/08
On 5/12/08, justcommonsense wrote:
>> Your "rights" in this matter depend on what state this incident
>> had occurred.
>
> I don't see how the state involved has anything to do with this
> case. Unless specifically included as part of a collective
> bargaining agreement between the school board and the local
> bargaining agent, a school district does not have to show any
> cause for the dismissal of probationary/non-tenured teachers.
>
>> O.K., so your remark was said out of anger, and was
>> inappropriate. But, other teachers have done far worse, though,
>> including acting grossly inappropriately and unprofessionally in
>> the classroom, during an angry moment, or on a generally "bad
>> day," and were neither terminated nor nonrenewed.
>
> Two wrongs still don't make a right. I usually side with
> teachers in these types of situations, but it's hard to justify
> keeping an employee who made a public statement this erratic.
> There are just some mistakes that a teacher CAN NOT afford to
> make, and this is the finest such example posted in some time.
>
> I too believe that the school district made a wise decision in
> terminating you "questioning". I do believe that the blacklisting
> issue is more of a local problem, so you'll probably have to move
> far away should you choose to pursue another career in education.
> The tone of your post indicates that you realize the gravity of
> your error, so live and learn.
The state involved has quite a lot to do with the situation because
laws are not uniform from state to state.
To give "questioning" some "state-appropriate" advice, it's crucial
to know in what state the incident occurred. The "rights" of probationary teachers vary from state to state. In
some states, probationary teachers have a legal right to request a
written statement of reasons for dismissal or nonrenewal, the right
to file a written response within a certain time period, and the
right to have the response considered by the school board before any
final decision is made. Here is an interesting article from Journal of Law and
Education dealing, in part, with dismissals of teachers for off-
duty conduct:
Dismissing the "immoral" teacher for conduct outside the workplace...
Posts on this thread, including this one
- Update: Am I fit to teach?, 5/10/08, by questioning.
- Re: Update: Am I fit to teach?, 5/10/08, by No, you are not.
- Re: Update: Am I fit to teach?, 5/10/08, by it makes perfect sense.
- Re: Update: Am I fit to teach?, 5/10/08, by Missed it... what did you do? nfm.
- Re: Update: Am I fit to teach?, 5/10/08, by Lisa.
- Re: Update: Am I fit to teach?, 5/10/08, by questioning.
- Re: I'm not surprised at all, 5/10/08, by If you look at it from their point of view.
- Re: Update: Am I fit to teach?, 5/11/08, by Lisa.
- Re: Update: Am I fit to teach?, 5/12/08, by justcommonsense.
- Re: Update: Am I fit to teach?, 5/12/08, by Lisa.
- Re: Update: Am I fit to teach?, 5/12/08, by liar, liar...
- Re: to liar, liar, 5/12/08, by yes, someone could call the police.
- Re: Update: Am I fit to teach?, 5/14/08, by Tina.
- Re: Tina, 5/14/08, by another perspective.
- Re: Update: Am I fit to teach?, 5/14/08, by Teacherguy.
- Re: This OP didn't just reprimand a child. He threatened to, 5/14/08, by break the child's neck. There is a BIG difference. more.
- Re: This OP didn't just reprimand a child. He threatened to, 5/14/08, by Bob/VA.
- Re: Tina, 5/14/08, by Tina.
- Re: Tina, 5/14/08, by yet more prespective.
- Re: Tina..."free speech????", 5/14/08, by Oh Brother!.
- Re: Tina, 5/14/08, by Tina.
- Re: Tina, 5/15/08, by more perspective.
- Re: perspectives, 5/15/08, by mike.
- Re: Tina, 5/15/08, by You assume "We're all educated intelligent people".
- Re: Update: Am I fit to teach?, 6/11/08, by jd.
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