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Re: Admin only please
Posted by lynne/ca on 5/15/08
On 5/15/08, mayBfutureprincess wrote:
> I have applied for a position where I work. Right now,
> there are 4 AP with one leaving. My question is this:
> There are rules on the book, but none of the APs are on
> the same page as far as discipline. This is a very big
> complaint among teachers. Is there a way to get them all
> on the same page? I think one of the first things to find out - if you don't
already know - is whether the "rules on the book" are being
followed. If they aren't, they need to be, and although it
will help to get people closer to the same page, that's
really a much bigger issue than just being on the same page.
But it is possible to follow the rules and do
everything "right" and still appear to not be on the same
page - often two students might break the same rule and
receive different consequences for good reason. For example,
for one student it might be the first incident, for another
the fourth or fifth. Progressive discipline may require very
different consequences for those two; confidentiality may
prevent the AP from explaining that reasoning to other
students, parents, or teachers - so it appears unfair to
those who only see that two students who did the same thing
received different consequences. But when you know the whole
story, it often turns out that the rules are actually being
followed consistently and correctly.
You're at this school already AND have a background in
administration, so I'll assume you have the background to
know whether or not that's what's happening. Your goal of
getting everyone on the same page is an excellent one. I'd
just recommend that you be open to adapting your own style
to theirs in the name of consistency rather than coming in
with an expectation of getting everyone onto "your" page
immediately. As far as ways to go about developing that
consistency, one possibility is to have collaboration
sessions (one district I know of had a short series of
afternoon workshops) in which they took scenarios of real
incidents and discussed how they'd respond to them, coming
to a consensus about the appropriate response). A first
step, though, might just be informal conversations with the
AP's, asking "what was your thinking on this - why did you
decide to handle such-in-such in that particular way?" Find
out WHY there is inconsistency in applying disipline
policies - is it because of differing philosophies about
appropriate discipline? Differing levels of understanding of
policies? Insufficient information about the incidents? Bias
toward or against certain groups of students? See what you
find out, and go from there.
Posts on this thread, including this one
- Admin only please, 5/15/08, by mayBfutureprincess.
- Re: Admin only please, 5/15/08, by to ha ha.
- Re: Admin only please, 5/15/08, by lynne/ca.
- Re: Thanks, Lynne/ca, 5/16/08, by OP.
- Re: If I were a teacher there, 5/16/08, by L. Swilley .
- Re: swilley, I applied for a ADMIN position, 5/16/08, by nfm.
- Re: Well,, 5/16/08, by L. Swilley.
- Re: swilley, 5/16/08, by OP.
- Re: Thanks, Lynne/ca, 5/16/08, by lynne/ca.
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