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Re: Thanks, Lynne/ca
Posted by OP on 5/16/08
I do know there are a few different reasons for different
consequences such as 1st offense etc. The consequences for
the offences are spelled out in our handbook, but I'm sure
some leeway needs to be given in certain situations as not
everything is black and white when dealing with kids! The biggest complaint from teachers, however, is that 2 of the
principals typically do not do anything but 'warn' the
kids...and the kids know it! (teachers get their slips back
with the discipline marked on it) One of these two principals
is retiring. The other-maybe in 2 years. Thanks for your suggestions! On 5/15/08, lynne/ca wrote:
> On 5/15/08, mayBfutureprincess wrote:
>> I have applied for a position where I work. Right now,
>> there are 4 AP with one leaving. My question is this:
>> There are rules on the book, but none of the APs are on
>> the same page as far as discipline. This is a very big
>> complaint among teachers. Is there a way to get them all
>> on the same page?
>
> I think one of the first things to find out - if you don't
> already know - is whether the "rules on the book" are being
> followed. If they aren't, they need to be, and although it
> will help to get people closer to the same page, that's
> really a much bigger issue than just being on the same page.
> But it is possible to follow the rules and do
> everything "right" and still appear to not be on the same
> page - often two students might break the same rule and
> receive different consequences for good reason. For example,
> for one student it might be the first incident, for another
> the fourth or fifth. Progressive discipline may require very
> different consequences for those two; confidentiality may
> prevent the AP from explaining that reasoning to other
> students, parents, or teachers - so it appears unfair to
> those who only see that two students who did the same thing
> received different consequences. But when you know the whole
> story, it often turns out that the rules are actually being
> followed consistently and correctly.
> You're at this school already AND have a background in
> administration, so I'll assume you have the background to
> know whether or not that's what's happening. Your goal of
> getting everyone on the same page is an excellent one. I'd
> just recommend that you be open to adapting your own style
> to theirs in the name of consistency rather than coming in
> with an expectation of getting everyone onto "your" page
> immediately. As far as ways to go about developing that
> consistency, one possibility is to have collaboration
> sessions (one district I know of had a short series of
> afternoon workshops) in which they took scenarios of real
> incidents and discussed how they'd respond to them, coming
> to a consensus about the appropriate response). A first
> step, though, might just be informal conversations with the
> AP's, asking "what was your thinking on this - why did you
> decide to handle such-in-such in that particular way?" Find
> out WHY there is inconsistency in applying disipline
> policies - is it because of differing philosophies about
> appropriate discipline? Differing levels of understanding of
> policies? Insufficient information about the incidents? Bias
> toward or against certain groups of students? See what you
> find out, and go from there.
Posts on this thread, including this one
- Admin only please, 5/15/08, by mayBfutureprincess.
- Re: Admin only please, 5/15/08, by to ha ha.
- Re: Admin only please, 5/15/08, by lynne/ca.
- Re: Thanks, Lynne/ca, 5/16/08, by OP.
- Re: If I were a teacher there, 5/16/08, by L. Swilley .
- Re: swilley, I applied for a ADMIN position, 5/16/08, by nfm.
- Re: Well,, 5/16/08, by L. Swilley.
- Re: swilley, 5/16/08, by OP.
- Re: Thanks, Lynne/ca, 5/16/08, by lynne/ca.
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