Re: Supportive husband needs employment advice
    Posted by: sped on 4/20/16
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    I'll just say that in my experience with job searches in the
    educational field, she shouldn't be applying for 200
    positions "over the years," but, at a minimum, 200 jobs per
    year. This goes for teaching, counselor, admin, and so on.

    My advice would be three fold:

    1: She needs to critically look at her resume. My guess is
    that it is not well written if she receives no calls at all.
    There are a number of resources she can use to draft a good
    resume that can catch the attention of administrators. If
    she has been applying for years and can't get a call, it may
    be her resume and/or application.

    2: It is good you're willing to relocate, but focus this
    search constructively. She will need to have an educator
    license/certificate in the states she is applying to. The
    hiring of an out of state counselor is probably not going to
    happen if she isn't licensed in the state. If she is not
    licensed in several states, she should undertake that
    process, focusing on a few states she is most interested in
    relocating to.

    Even still, you need to understand that many districts aren't
    hurting for counselors. It is unlikely that a nice suburban
    district will want to hire her from out of state. They
    likely have a number of teachers who got their counseling
    degree, so why hire someone outside. If she is applying out
    of state, she should focus on the districts that... are bad.
    Inner city, urban, or po-dunk rural. Places some people
    don't want to go. She then can make a move to a nicer
    district in a few years once she is local, if she wants to.
    Typically large, inner city districts are more likely to hire
    from far away. They have more need and are willing to work
    with out of state people. The nice suburban districts
    typically can get someone local, if not in-district, so they
    won't bother.

    3. Apply, apply, apply. She should prioritize, of course,
    but she should be willing to send out applications everywhere
    practicable. I would suggest that she focus on openings
    nearby, then on districts without openings nearby (apply to a
    district without openings, and then when there is an opening,
    her paperwork is in the system), and then focus on states
    where she is licensed/certified with the same
    prioritization. In PA, she should look at neighboring states
    where it would be possible to drive for an interview. She
    may target other places more far afield. California, for
    instance, apparently has a teacher shortage in some areas for
    a variety of reasons, some of which is cost of living. I'm
    not sure if that has spread to the counseling field, but it
    is worth a look.

    On 4/20/16, Bernard Benko Jr wrote:
    > Hello everyone,
    > I'll preface by saying that this post may seem ridiculous
    or even desperate
    > on my part. I'm writing to get some honest answers. I need
    feedback from
    > school administrators, especially if you're involved in the
    hiring process at
    > your respective schools, districts, etc. I'm probably not
    even the first
    > person to broach this subject.
    > My wife has her Masters in School Counseling. She's been
    applying all
    > over the country for school/guidance counselor positions,
    attending job
    > fairs, etc for the last 4 years. We live in Pennsylvania,
    and have a
    > willingness to relocate should an opportunity arise. I'm
    very supportive of
    > my wife and want to see that she gets to pursue her
    passions. However,
    > we feel at a loss with this whole process. She's spent many
    hours each
    > day after work, applying even for just one position...has
    applied for almost
    > 200 positions over the years. Is it time to throw in the
    towel? Look at other
    > careers? I know counselor positions are few and far
    between. Is getting a
    > job really only about who you know? From what I know, the
    positions aren't
    > often mandated, therefore getting the ax when cuts have to
    be made.
    > I figured I'd give it a shot by asking those that are
    involved in the actual
    > decision making process. Is there anything to make her more
    > in this field saturated with applicants?
    > I'm not in the school system myself. I've been working in
    mental health for
    > over 15 years. I can only support her with this
    frustration, but don't really
    > know what else to suggest. I feel that she's qualified and
    has a background
    > competitive with other applicants. It's just that the hard
    work is producing
    > nothing. No calls for interviews, etc. I'm not even sure
    that her resume is
    > being looked at.
    > Cliff's notes of her qualifications
    > - Bachelors in education
    > - High School teacher for 5 years at a school in an urban
    > - 9 years (so far) working in the MH field
    > - Weekend director of a Residential MH facility
    > - Dialectical Behavioral Specialist - thesis on DBT for
    high school students
    > - CPI Trainer (non violent crisis intervention)
    > - Currently completing ASCA's College Admissions Specialist
    > training.
    > - More
    > I know I'm probably preaching to the choir with my concerns
    > complaints. I just feel that it's time she at least gets a
    chance. Sorry to
    > take up everyone's time - if you're reading this. Any
    advice or a point in the
    > right direction for my wife would be wonderful! Thanks!
    > Bernie

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  • Supportive husband needs employment advice, 4/20/16, by Bernard Benko Jr.
  • Re: Supportive husband needs employment advice, 4/20/16, by sped.
  • Re: Supportive husband needs employment advice, 4/20/16, by Kate.
  • Re: Supportive husband needs employment advice, 4/20/16, by Bernie.
  • Re: Supportive husband needs employment advice, 4/20/16, by Bernie.