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I'm in California as well. I'm not sure why you say the info I
posted is "not correct." What you've written doesn't contradict
what I wrote as far as I can see (as long as the person you know
who was not awarded permanent status after five years falls into
one of the three categories I described, which I'm guessing they
do - if they don't then the district was not following the law).

Regarding the number of years, you and I have said the same
thing. Your "Instead of it being three years for tenure year,
it's only two years" and my "teachers [with the three
exceptions] earn permanent status on the first day of their
third year" are two different ways to say the same thing. Two
years of probationary status, and then permanent status (or
"tenure") earned on the first day of the third year.

Yes, it used to be longer and yes, when the probationary period
was shortened some rights were given up in exchange. I do not
like the current system any more than you do, but it is what it
is.
In other words I basically agree with what you've written so I'm
not sure why you say the info I posted is "ideal" and "not
correct". The system is far from perfect but it is, at least,
well-defined.

On 4/18/16, Retiree wrote:
>
> It would be nice and ideal if the info. below was correct but
sadly it
> isn't. CTA gave up tenure rights along time ago. Instead of it
> being three years for tenure year, it's only two years. Well
with it,
> a non tenured fully credentialed, fully qualified teacher can
be let
> go and they DO NOT have to state a reason other than, "You
will not
> be back next year." Prior to the two year tenure, help was
provided
> for struggling teachers and if they still didn't succeed they
could let
> them go. This is absolutely correct and was explained by a CTA
> attorney. It would be great if the purpose was weeding out
failing
> teachers alone. However, if a political hack is waiting in the
wings
> for a position, they may get the job. Nice huh??? I think the
old
> three year tenure system was far better, but I'm an oldie and
there
> are lots of things I liked better in the past.
> I do know someone who was strung along for about five years
and
> still not rewarded tenure. Yes, they CAN DO that!! Fair, no,
but it
> happens.
> So glad I taught when I did and got out when I did. I never
had any
> problems but if I would have help would have been nice.
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>> All fully-credentialed California teachers working in
>> regularly-funded, non-temporary positions in public schools
>> earn permanent status on the first day of their third year.
>> If they do not it is because of one of the following specific
>> circumstances:
>>
>> (a) the teacher is on a temporary contract or is working in a
>> categorically-funded position and has never worked in a
>> regularly-funded non-temporary position;
>>
>> (b) the teacher is not fully credentialed (i.e., has an
>> emergency credential or substitute permit in place of a
>> preliminary credential or clear credential);
>>
>> (c) the teacher works in a private school, since private
>> schools set their own rules regarding certification and
>> employment status.
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>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/05/16, Concerned employee wrote:
>>>> After working for a school district for four years could a
>>> school district hire a
>>>> teacher back the fifth year but not give the teacher
>>> tenure?

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